Ban Reduced [DG] Yimbo's Appeal [STEAM_0:1:54669511]

Discussion in 'Ban Appeals' started by Yimbo, May 29, 2014.

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What should happen here?

Poll closed Jun 5, 2014.
  1. Do not unban

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    23.1%
  2. Unban now

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    15.4%
  3. Discipline, then unban

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    46.2%
  4. I'd like a Cappuccino please

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  1. Yimbo

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    Steam Name: [DG] Yimbo
    Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:54669511
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    Appeal:

    Hello everyone, Jimmy (DG Yimbo) here. I am sure some of you know why I am perma banned from the servers but to those who haven't heard, I will tell you and I am going to try to reach out to our whole community about this whole issue. I will try to make this short and concise and get straight to the point, so basically I have repeatedly radio spammed, disregarding respect for admins, members, and other players in the servers. Reason being is that I cannot really help it; I just do. I know its a silly reason and all, but I actually want to get the big picture here. The ban gave me a wakeup call to really knock it off and to actually start representing our community instead of trashing the image and chasing other folks away from the servers. I would first off like to say that I admit to all of these wrongful actions that have caused problems for this whole beloved, peaceful, and fun community, and I am so sincerely sorry. I really cannot think of what had come over me, but I acted like such a fool. It was childish, annoying, and to basically sum up everything, the word I would use is pathetic. I feel terrible for what I have done and upon this appeal, I know I am supposed to tell you all why I should be unbanned and how to reverse all the damage that I have already caused. Whats done is done, but if you all were to help support me to get unbanned, I promise you I will change my behavior to be more respectful, outgoing, and fun for everyone to have a reason to play in our servers. I want to help this community by being that guy, and I truly believe I can do it and am up for the task. I've let you all down and I can't be any more apologetic. I ask for all of your guys' vote to help me get unbanned. I agree that I still need to be punished for my actions, and I am hoping for anything but a perma banned. Whatever the outcome may be whether I get unbanned or the perma ban still stays in place, I will still respect your guys' decisions. Whatever the outcome may be, I still want to represent DG because you guys are honestly like family to me and I have never been apart of such a loving and welcoming community like this one. I hope you guys acknowledge this message and decide what is best for the clan. I understand that the damage has been done and some of you really despise of just who I am as a person, but I dont blame you, and I'll still have love for you. I brought this upon myself. Thank you guys for dedicating the time to read this and hope to hear from y'all soon.

    Jimmy

    [Edited by HADES]
     
  2. Yimbo

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    Also to add on to other stupid things that I've done to receive this punishment, was that I encouraged other people to radio spam which caused havoc and mayhem in the servers. Again, I promise I will not let this happen again if you guys give me a second chance
     
  3. Dessy

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    I will not vote neither yes or no. At the moment I do not feel that I can give a fair vote.
     
  4. bigdog

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    I like the fact that Jimmy acknowledged that he was wrong and his apology seems sincere. I would like to encourage other members to support some form of sanction lessor than the permanent ban that was put in place and give Jimmy the chance to prove himself worthy of another opportunity to become a DG member. I respectfully request that Hades consider some reasonable period for the ban and then allow Jimmy to be re-instated or even have to re-apply for membership. If Jimmy doesn't uphold the expectations of DG membership and his behavior on the gaming server becomes negative, then Hades can always ban him again for cause. I believe in giving people chances to learn from their past mistakes and hopefully recover.
     
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  5. HADES

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    Jimmy is still a member. His membership was never removed. He is banned from the CSS servers only. He can play on other DG servers... like Rust.
     
  6. knifey

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    I think he's learned his lesson. I vote to "Unban now".
     
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  7. Felmac

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    I agree with big dog and remember" only human bound to make mistakes"
     
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  8. Pikachuu

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    I don't feel I can give a fair vote at the moment.. I'll come back to this.
     
  9. bigdog

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    I’m updating my comment concerning Jimmy’s permanent ban, since Hades updated me on the status of the ban on Jimmy and that it only applies to Jimmy playing on DG CSS servers and not his DG status or membership on the forums. My basic reasoning as mentioned in my original post still holds true. I know it takes a while for others to frequent the forum and read the posts and Jimmy is fortunate that Hades has allowed until June 5, 2014 for the poll to be closed. I would ask that our members consider lifting the ban and give Jimmy a chance to prove himself. If he fails to hold up his end, I’ll bring the rope to the hanging.
     
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  10. silver_apple

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    I stand by my decision. Jimmy should remained banned but not permanently. His ban should return to a week ban so that he would learn that what he did was wrong and it defaced the clan. If he continues his behavior after a week ban he should be banned for a longer period of time (depending on the extent of the behavior).

    Reasons behind my decision:

    Reason #1: Proof

    Proof: http://www.filedropper.com/yimbo
    Proof2: http://i.imgur.com/dlM4Be3.png?1

    Reason #2: No regard for our rules and the administrators that enforce them

    Reason #3: He was given several chances to correct his behavior and he continued his behavior

    Reason #4: He encouraged others to join in the rule breaking
     
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  11. mudpug

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    I think jimmy (like all of us) went through a rough patch of life and we should give him another chance. Deep down we all love jimbo and know that he is a good guy. I vote unban now.
     
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  12. Darthalicious

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    i dont believe jimmy needs to come back at the moment i say he stays banned
     
  13. bigdog

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    I don't think anyone would disagree with why Jimmy was banned for a week as was done initially. The issue is the permanent ban and is this really what needs to happen to get his attention or are we sending a message to others that this type of behavior will not be tolerated. You banned Jimmy on May 21, 2014 and today is May 30, 2014. I really don't want to second guess anyone and even extending the 1 week ban may be appropriate, but the DG CSS death sentence (permanent ban) is not.
     
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  14. kago

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    Jimmy has always been the type of guy to joke around, but from this i think he should be banned but not permanently. he did disrespect the rules and we cannot allow him to get just a slap on the wrist and run off. i think his apology is sincere. so i vote for discipline and unban.
     
  15. -=BigJay=-

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    right now i don't know what i think about this i don't know what i should say about it
     
  16. Dessy

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    I would like to know how Jimmy is going to handle himself when he logs into the server and the people he had taught to radio spam and pushed for them to do so, starts to radio spamming again because they see him coming back on server, what will he do? I know you all wish for a second chance but I feel he has already had many chances due to fact I spoke to him almost daily on the matter and told him he would end up permanently banned if he did not stop, his answer was always the same, "He forgot", I do not understand how someone can forget something that is being told to you every day, then watching with my own eyes how he pushed for Silver to do something to him, saying, "Look silver, I am camping where zombies can't get me, look silver I am radio spamming, look silver I am on the light now", taunting her over and over to point she could not even think right. I do not call this behavior as a person who forgot and I strongly feel that more than a second chance was already given but if you all wish to allow him to come back into the server and play, then I will support you all in your decision.

    PS. I would also like to say that no matter how you feel about someone out side of the server and clan should not be brought into the server and clan, if you don't like another member then so be it, it's your right but to cause the drama that has taken place on the server was uncalled for and way out of hand.
     
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  17. Yimbo

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    Like I said before, the ban that I received was a wakeup call and I promise to never repeat something so childish and juvenile again. I understand whats at stake and to tell you the truth, from all the things that had occured since the day I got banned, I could say it was bitter sweet knowing that it was only a matter of time that I would end up suffering from doing all this radio spamming but would eventually shape me into being a clan member that I'm supposed to be. I learned now that I shouldn't be such an idiot and such a troll all the time, and that I should portray a good image for the clan. Thats even the reason why I joined because of the awesome impression I got from everyone here and I know I am supposed to be like everyone else and to uphold the rules and to provide a fun environment for others. I understand now ever since the ban that the childish bull needs to stop.

    In response to Dessy's post, I am not trying to argue and debate whos right or wrong, Silver clearly has evidence of my behavior and I am not going to challenge her or anyone for that matter. I'm simply owning up to my mistakes and apologizing for such behavior. The issue concerning whether or not I will repeat this again because as you mentioned I do tend to say "I forgot" everytime I radio spam, is that I will absolutely not. Never again. Not after what has happened the past couple of weeks. Its imbedded in me now.

    I am simply apologizing for everything and you all as a community will have my word that I will never ever trash the image of this clan ever again or may God smite me. Once again to everyone from members to non members, I am so so sorry and I hope I can be given a second chance to redeem myself. I still respect everyone's input on this whole issue whether you want me to stay banned or unbanned, it doesnt matter to me. I said what was needed to be said, mainly my apology, and basically threw all my cards on the table. Thank you again for acknowledging whatever I have to say, and for the billionth time, I am sorry.

    Jimmy
     
  18. HADES

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    Jimmy, we are not a military school. We don't make you or train you to be a proper member or a person. You either are, or not.

    We don't ban players in order to shape them into proper members. We ban players to protect the community. We warn players to give them a chance to correct their behavior... on their own.
     
  19. Yimbo

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    I agree Hades and at this point, I have no idea what else to say. I brought this upon myself and I guess the damage has already been done. I just regret embarrassing myself and embarrassing the community.
     
  20. silver_apple

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    He pushed me over the edge by repeatedly taunting me and basically bullying me. At times he even made me lose my cool and so sometimes I had to take breaks from the servers just to relax to go back to being level headed. Second of all I really do not being taken advantage of in the manner that he did. I even gave him warnings through steam by telling him repeatedly that he will be kicked/banned from the server or even removed from the clan if his behavior continues. He always said it's hard to when other players are doing it, but I watched him and he was the one instigating the behavior in others. I even told him if he can control himself try disabling the radio command keys so you won't be able to use the radio commands.
     
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